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I Have Achieved Illusionation, the Better Illumination/Enlightenment - Epyc Wynn

Illusionation is not enlightenment, and I'm going to tell you all this definitively: do not pursue enlightenment, it is equivalent to pursuing your own death. Likewise, DO NOT pursue raw illumination -rather, pursue something similar that is better for what you truly desire. To explain to you what I mean I must explain to you four concepts I have logically and categorically figured out and defined over time.

Enlightenment: To be enlightened is to see past the curtain at a cost you do not want to pay, an equivalent to the Faustian argument of trading your soul for a great power. It requires trading your free will for an all-powerful circumstantialness, meaning you get to be one with everything in an abstract vague sense, and achieve a greater subtle unified understanding of things, at the cost of no longer being a player in this game and losing your free will to absolute circumstantial tides of change in the universe. You come into a mystical contact with truth directly in a subtle abstract way, and in doing so destroy your own ability to not be directly influenced by that truth's agenda of sorts. For instance if our administrator of this particular universe made this universe to be built around something arbitrary like dark grey cats, you would forever have that at the core of who you are and have it permanently influencing all that you do, while your free will will be long gone by the time you finally come in contact with whatever arbitrary truths are governing this universal system. Enlightenment's pursuit throughout its teaching requires removing your sense of ego and desire, purifying yourself down to nothing more than a blank sheet of paper, and in doing so has you obsess with loving the unpainted canvas rather than enjoying the healthy pursuit of crafting yourself into a master piece. You trade your soul for truth, in other words. Don't pursue it. This is worse than being delusional -at least when delusional one has some iota of free will.

Illumination: To be illuminated is to know you are immortal with 100% certainty. It does not require throwing away your self in exchange for truth -but has a similar consequence of circumstantialness you also should not desire. To demonstrate this, let's ask a question: What would happen if everyone know upon their death, they would be immortal in some relatively desirable fashion? Answer: lots of suicides, lots of rampant doing whatever the fuck one wants, lots of overly-confident zealotous extremism, because everyone would be permanently influenced by this contact with the truth of their unendingness. And yes that is a theme illumination and enlightenment have in common: both have you eventually come in contact with a subtle abstract truth. Enlightenment lets you know the truth of how the universe as an abstract vague pattern intuitively functions, while killing your free will in the process and replacing it with that truth that happens to dictate this specific universe. Illumination has a less horrible, but comparably bad outcome as you are permanently going to be influenced by the truth that you will live beyond your body (provided you don't achieve enlightenment) -you don't want to be 100% certain of that beyond any iota of doubt in your mind. If you genuinely believed it, you would be unable to grasp the weight of not knowing you're immortal that is necessary to not becoming a total megalomaniacal apathetic douchebag. People literally cannot and SHOULD NOT know that truth with 100% certainty, it will ruin who they are and make them act just terribly. But even if you somehow kept yourself contrived in an ethical fashion, that wouldn't be good enough because once you know you're immortal, the cat's out of the bag and it will influence every decision you make. "Should I do this project? -nah I'm immortal it can wait five lifetimes" kinda mentality would be commonplace. Or alternatively "Should I kill 10,000 people because they believe in some stupid shit? fuck it they'll just respawn in some fashion anyway." If you genuinely know people are going to 'be okay' when killed, you become a fucking sociopathic psychopath when you really grasp the reality of that. Thus, illumination is a comparably bad idea and is essentially the opposite bad outcome of coming into contact with truth, which kind of makes enlightenment sort of make sense to a minute extent, because enlightenment likely has to extinguish your soul for this reason. In short: don't pursue absolute truth, you either become nothing or become evil.

(Part 1)

Initiation into Hermetics

Someone to ask me a question about the initial exercise of Initiation into Hermetics?

Question Thread #41

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Propserity Gospel

The Prosperity Gospel is biblical. The "Christians" that want suffering and misery on Earth are bitter, jealous, covetousness, or just warped. It's true that the Bible is bigger than the Prosperity Gospel but there's nothing wrong with the preaching of Joel Osteen and anyone else who is optimistic and wants Christians to be blessed here on Earth and in Heaven. The idea you have to suffer horribly with disease, debts, and other afflictions your whole life until you die is nonsense. Those things are mainly from Satan not from God. God chastens his people but he doesn't let them pointlessly suffer and he is merciful. Also Jesus tells us to check our thoughts for a reason.

I am not convinced that people criticizing the Prosperity Gospel are right in their assertions.

Strange synchronizes involving the number three

Two nights before I had awoken abruptly and precisely at 3:33 AM

Day after was playing video games and had a stack of 3,333 of a single item in my inventory

This phenomena has been occurring for a few years now but never with such frequency. I had some dealings with 'Kek' and chaos magic when I started noticing these occurrences, and have distanced myself since, but the syncronicites continue!

What does this mean? Any with similar dealings? Please help a noob out!

Non-Kike Magic

It seems like Kabbalah and all sorts of Hebrew garbage have infected a great deal of what is meant to be the Western magical tradition, thanks to Christcuckery. What are some tried and true magical traditions or systems that have no influence from (((them)))? Voodoo and various African traditions, as well as various Native American traditions and Eastern traditions come to mind. What European magical traditions, orders, or systems exist that don't use Kabbalah or other kinds of Jew magic? And what would be recommended reading on them?

Question Thread #40

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Have you taken the Buddhapill?

I write this to those of you who are still on the Chaos wheel of endless acquisition. Some day, you'll get tired of the game. You'll see that the cycle is by definition incapable of scratching the deep itch that you need attended to.

When that day comes, I just ask you to consider that the Buddha has the technology to alleviate your deep-seated dissatisfaction.

Good luck out there, frens.

Soul Survival And Race

Racial survival is tied to the survival of consciousness after a person passes away. After people die their memory is carried by the race they are a member of.For this reason the survival of consciousness after death is tied to the survival of their ethnic group, because their consciousness lives on in the genetic memory of that ethnic group.

Nazis called this "blood memory". Actively remembering people through monuments, movies, and stories, and images, helps to reproduce the physical and mental likeness of them in future generations. If you talk about a dead person it brings their spirit to you and also it gives them life.

feeding the dead attention helps to give their consciousness life within the afterworld.

Ancestor veneration was one of the most prevalent pagan religions. This is basically confucianism, but White people were basically practicing a White version of confucianism. Check out this Norse poem

http://www.voluspa.org/grogaldr.htm

And the Roman custom of Lares

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lares

The ancestors were the original guardian angels.

White people have no choice but be loyal to the white race because in a anti-white society, the other races have been encouraged to resent the memory of white people. So in order for white people to have their consciousness be honored in future generations, they have to preserve the existence of white people in future generations. Even if those white people don't venerate the ancestors, the memory of the ancestors will still live on in their blood.

White people are not being given the option of joining other ethnic groups because non-whites are encouraged to hate "dead white males", so the only suitable race for remembering white people is: the white race.

The ancients believed the spirits of the dead can influence the living vor good and bad, for this reason they would pray to the ancetsors for help with all manner of things including health and love, ghosts were believed to be able to influence the living.

The white race must be preserved in order to preserve the ghosts of the ancestors and in order to preserve the ghosts of those white people who have not yet died. Spiritual immortality is related to the survival of the race. The biological is the spiritual.

Jesus Christ - Evoking his Name

I'm not a religious person or a Christian, but I have spiritual proclivity and over a decade of experience. I've read that if you ever feel attacked by a malevolent entity, you can evoke the name of Jesus Christ they will recoil and go away.

I recently felt some kind of presence in my room attacking me and putting a feeling of weight on my chest and difficulty breathing while I was trying to sleep. My normal closed eye visuals of swirls were replaced by apparitions and some vague faces that looked demonic and threatening, plus an insecure general feeling of malaise. I said clearly and firmly in my mind "Jesus Christ please help me, in the name of Jesus Christ help me" and I instantly felt them recede.

I am partly skeptical because it could be placebo, and frankly this type of thinking seems like a feedback loop where the more you believe this works, the more these imagined "problems" manifest themselves. Like you are inviting the problem only to have a solution. With that said I can't help but feel like something about this is real and it's making me question if my more general spiritual beliefs are wrong and there is something to the story of Christ and maybe I am wrong.

Thoughts? Please don't flame me.

Renouncing Lust Thread V

Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

The Soul Purpose

So, I've asked the universe for me set up so I can really get acquainted with, to truly understand, and set my path of having a career with my Soul Purpose. So many people go through life without understanding their soul purpose and wind up as a variant of a robot, with or without virginity.

So when did you finally meet and get acquainted with your own soul purpose/life destiny, (or however else you want to call it)? I ask, because I figured I'd start up discussion, and because I'm feeling a bit lost on my soul purpose- like I have an idea on what it is, but I really want to be autistically sure on it.

If I Kill Myself, Will I Regret It?

I don't belong on this earth and am seriously contemplating suicide. I have been for many years (I'm 21) and basically as I grow older the thoughts are turning from an unconscious desire to be free from the suffering into a conscious realization of the absolute agony that the rest of my life will be. Basically all I have to look forward to is a life of prayer on my knees begging God to give me the strength to bear the weight of this miserable, stupid, dark world which I am forced to live in.

I don't believe in heaven or hell but I do believe in a many dimensional universe and life after physicality. However I know that I know nothing so I came here to get some perspective. Is suicide the right call?

Technomancy

Is there any intersection between programming and magick?

I'm someone who hasn't quite taken the greenpill, somewhere between mundane and neophyte. I see a lot of similarities between the two, using arcane texts to invoke a command on something is a huge parallel.

Most normies would consider programmers to be the wizards of the modern world. I'm in that boat for the most part, but as an aspiring programmer I've got to wonder if there is any way to channel the occult into my programs. Are there any books that discuss this at length? I've downloaded parts of the library and haven't seen anything that addresses this as a larger observation.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur Clarke

Crystals Experimentation

I was largely believed that most things esoteric were complete wastes of time. Entertaining perhaps, but little else. Then about a year ago I had many synchronicities - just one after another after another - that woke my mind up to the fact that I've been ignoring things my whole life. Since then, I've dived head-first into all these things, experimenting personally with claims I find interesting.

One of those interesting subjects is crystals. As a child, geology and mineralogy were subjects I greatly enjoyed, so when I happened upon info on "Vogel crystals," of course I bought a couple cheap Chinese-produced ones to test. If nothing else, I just got a couple pretty stones to display, right? I bought a small clear quartz Vogel and a medium-sized lab regrown citrine quartz.

I started skeptically, but quickly I found that these things have many secrets. I first followed an old video of Marcel Vogel, clearing and programming them. Afterward, I held one and pointed it at my hand and felt an invisible ripple wherever I pointed it at my opposite hand.

After a couple months of experimenting, here are the interesting experiences I've had with them:

- Temporary (several hours) relief of my wrist tendonitis when used on the area.

- When placed near my head as I sleep, with the male point facing my head, I have vivid dreams again. When I sleep without them, or with them away from my head, I sleep as normal.

- I once fell asleep with the citrine in my right hand. My phone was next to me, and at some point I put my other hand on it. My phone vibrated when I got a text, but at the same time, for the same duration, the citrine in my right hand also vibrated, and very strongly! I've tried to reproduce this but have had no luck.

- A day or two after getting the citrine, I was waving it around my hand, bored at the time. I absently thought "burn, burn" as I circled the palm of my hand. I then got distracted and put it away. The next day, I decided to try using it on the solar plexus chakra (citrine supposedly resonates there). I used it there, nothing really happened, and I went to work. An hour and a half in, and I had the absolute worst cramps of my life, and terrible gas as well. It was so bad I went home. On the way back, I saw a small, hemisphere-shaped granite stone. Being so much in pain, I figured maybe other stones could work too. I cleared it in a similar way as the Vogels, and used it around my stomach with soothing thoughts. Whether that stone did anything, idk, but the pain and all the symptoms disappeared within half an hour. I cleared that citrine three times to make sure.

For some reason, to me at least, the citrine has much more ability than the clear quartz. About 10x the effect. I've heard that the size shouldn't matter that much, so maybe it just resonates more with me, not sure.